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PNW Quick Start

This page is aimed to assist you, a new user of the PNW network after your radio has been programmed for use on PNW.  It assumes that you have access to PNW's main talkgroups and that you have programmed your radio correctly (need a codeplug; see bottom of page). 

Before you go further, PNW suggests that you read the more general New User's GuideIt was written as a generic guide for new users to DMR rather than any particular Ham network.  It should be your first read...then come back to this page.

The flow of this page is arranged in order of what should be helpful to know to get started on PNW in a progressive order that a new DMR user is likely to follow.  Important basic information is included sooner than later but may be short on the finer details as this page is more a "Quick Start" list of items you should know.  As you gain experience on PNW DMR you can read elsewhere to learn more about DMR specifically as implemented by PNW.

Much the material presented here is taken from the PNW DMR How-to page.  That page is more detailed while this page should be easier for you to digest (or is it ingest?) as it presents the key features and rules in roughly the order that you are likely to approach when learning a new mode.  Are you ready to mush on?


So you got your radio programmed...

  1. Motorola MotoTRBO repeaters support 2 simultaneous conversations via 2 "timeslots".
  2. The 1 or 2 after a PNW talkgroup name signifies which timeslot carries that talkgroup.
  3. Timeslot 1 is the primary PNW timeslot.  Timeslot 2 is the secondary timeslot to offload traffic from timeslot 1 but also where most of the other network talkgroups reside and are usually on PTT.
  4. If you are using a portable radio, please use High Power unless you know your signal is perfect into the repeater.  The digital noise sounds very bad and is much an issue on weak signals.
  5. For your first contact, it is best to select a statewide talkgroup; Idaho, Oregon or Washington and make a call, announcing that you are listening to the [statewide] talkgroup.  Ask for a radio check or mention that you are a new user.  We all were newbies at one time so don't be shy.
  6. It is generally a good idea to announce which talkgroup that you are calling on as most users are scanning multiple talkgroups and likely will not otherwise know which talkgroup you called on.
    •  Stay on the talkgroup for at least 1 minute.  A responding user may need to reach for his radio and select the correct zone and talkgroup.  Talkgroup hopping is confusing to all users as that activity sets and resets talkgroup timers as you rapidly switch and key-up on multiple talkgroups, one after the other without the courtesy to listen for a moment.
  7. Washington 1 is the busiest PNW talkgroup and has the most users, so call there first.
  8. Use Netwatch to see how the network is operating and how your radio appears on the network.
  9. If you don't get a response, ask for a radio check.  Radio checks or a request for a demonstration will generally get a response while simply tossing your call out, may not.  We have many listeners but few talkers so you might need something "special" to draw their interest to get a response.
  10. Allow a few seconds of dead air before keying up after the last ham unkeys.  Rapid key-ups don't allow other users to connect to or disconnect from, the conversation on your talkgroup. 
  11. Talkgroups do more than carry voice calls.  Talkgroup activity can control or manage all the DMR connections via timers and routing paths.
  12. You may also test on the Parrot 1 talkgroup.  It is an echo server and will also provide feedback as to your voice quality, level and breath puffs into the microphone opening (confuses the vocoder and makes the users voice more difficult to understand or monitor).  The Parrot's echo back also confirms that you are programmed correctly and the the network is functioning correctly.  Good audio is VERY Important and has always been an issue as users program differently, sometimes incorrectly as well as speaking and holding the mic differently.  The vocoder is more picky to encode voice than is analog audio.
  13. If you are shy, use Local 1 or Local 2 as these talkgroups don't reach out beyond a single repeater or specific group of repeaters making them a great option.  Use Local 2 first, then Local 1 if 2 is busy.  If you use Local 1, it disconnects all other PNW's primary talkgroups from your state and local repeater.  Local 2 leaves everything on timeslot 1 connected for other users to use normally while you are using Local 2.
  14. The Oregon North network operates somewhat differently.  If you use Oregon North, then read their User Guide.
  15. Use of statewides are primarily for use within the state.  Interstate use is permitted but should be moved to a TAC for long ore regular QSO's.  Our statewides are on our primary timeslot (TS 1) and their use restricts our use of our statewides within the PNW network.
  16. If you are in a long QSO, it is courteous to ask if anyone else would like to use the timeslot from time to time.  A user may wish break in, so remember to pause a few seconds before keying up.
  17. Not all talkgroups are PNW managed.  Many are shared by other networks and have their own rules and idiosyncrasies.  You are expected to know their rules but those rules are far beyond the scope of this quick start page.  Ask on the Yahoo Group for more info, check the PNW talkgroups or try the DCI talkgroup page to learn more details.
  18. We are not a Brandmeister network though we have a few TG's that are connected to BM.  Your use of those TG's for you exclusive link to BM hams is not encouraged.  An openSpot is a better approach for BM contacts if you are a regular user of BM network.

Join the PNW DMR Yahoo Group.  It is the "Goto" forum to ask questions, learn more about the  PNW network and networks beyond.  Request to join from the homepage, include your call sign and location in your request.

You are using a large network of repeaters...not all repeaters repeat all talkgroups all the time.  The network is complex so start out on Local 1 or Local 2 or any of the Statewides.  Locals are just that, not networked to other repeaters or DMR networks (generally).  Statewides connect together all the repeaters located in that state.

  • Statewides are on full time on all repeaters in that state.  Statewides on PNW tend to be calling channels.  QSO's are acceptable but be aware all repeaters are made busy while you are in QSO.
  • Other statewides (outside of your state) are part time talkgroups (PTT), so you must kerchunk to "wake up" another state's Statewide.  This is known as PTT, Part Time Talkgroups or Push-to-Talk.  PTT timers generally run 15 minutes of on time after the last key up on that talkgroup.
  • PNW 1 is our primary calling talkgroup, connected to ALL PNW repeaters fulltime.  It is seldom used except for hailing but is the Goto talkgroup to find a PNW listener.  Users should add PNW 1 into his Rx Group list and/or Scan list.  You own statewide talkgroup should be included also.

Certain talkgroups have specific purposes and time limits for their use.  Our statewides and Locals are perfect for use to get some air time to become more comfortable with DMR as well as gain more familiarity with the PNW network.  We suggest that you only listen to the other Networked talkgroups (DMR-MARC has strict rules) until you have a good working knowledge of how PNW DMR functions and have a grasp on the rules of engagement on the other networks talkgroups.

For very long QSO's with a buddy located anywhere in the world, typically you would use the TAC talkgroups as they bring up the fewest repeaters possible to enable that QSO.  There are talkgroups that bring up thousands of repeaters (example: DMR-MARC's Worldwide) while others bring up only a single repeater.  So you need to be aware of which talkgroup is appropriate to use at any given time.  QSO's on the PNW statewides or locals with other PNW hams will help to get a handle on this extensive network until you learn the fundamentals of using other network's talkgroups.

PNW is only one of many DMR networks.  Each network has their own rules and peculiarities so it may be better to stay on PNW talkgroups until you learn the lay of the land.  TAC's and USA 2 are the exception and may be used at any time, for any length of time per the rules for those talkgroups.  But you should also factor in some consideration for other PNW users in that, when you are using a talkgroup, that no one else is able to use the that timeslot on the repeater or repeater cluster that you are using.

Some talkgroups have rather rigid rules that you are expected to be aware of.  North America and Worldwide are DMR-MARC talkgroups that are for hailing or short QSO's to lessen the impact to hundreds or thousands of repeaters.  The other concern is that you can busy out our local PNW repeaters with these QSO's. 

Please be aware that PNW is a shared use network with many users listening but not necessarily actively talking.  So kerchunking a major talkgroup can have major impact on many of the PNW repeaters and our users who may be passively monitoring.  This is a concern as nasty audio, weak signal digital noise can sound terrible and now those passive users must quiet their radios.  If they are in a quiet family environment, it may drive other PNW listener's to turn off their radios or change talkgroups from what they otherwise would prefer.

So to recap the top 5 things to keep in mind:
  1. When calling, say your call sign, announce the talkgroup and/or location (or repeater)
  2. Pause a few seconds before keying up during a conversation.
  3. Minimize rapid talkgroup changes with kerchunking, pause to listen for traffic or responses.
  4. Be mindful when using wide area talkgroups that it uses significant resources.
  5. If you wish to start a conversation, say more than your call for a response from the lurkers.

If you have questions or need a clarification, simply ask on the air or post to the Yahoo Group.

Now that you have made it to the end of this starting out page, proceed with the "light" reading on our PNW DMR Talkgroup's How-to page to get more involved in the complexities of the PNW DMR network.

 
Codeplugs PNW website codeplug samples or Yahoo Group Codeplugs
New User Guide Excellent primer on the current state of Ham DMR , written by W2XAB
Push-to-Talk What PTT does and how it works, a more advanced look into their function
Talkgroups Detailed PNW Talkgroup List  (Bridge 2 / TAC 310-2)
Talkgroup Matrix PNW Talkgroup appearances and timers on the DCI c-Bridge's PNW managers

 

For more information, please post your questions on the PNW DMR list or: pnw-dmr@yahoogroups.com

 

Revised: 09/26/2017 22:49

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